Meeting 13.07.2026

Attendees

• Christoph Schreiner
• Elia
• Eszter (kurz)
• Hannes
• Ines
• Johannes
• Lea
• Lukas
• Markus
• Mo (Adam)
• Moritz
• Mo(ritz) Adelsberger
• Noah
• Patrick
• Vseslav

Cannot attend:

• Liza (excused)
• Chris(toph) Kraus (unexcused)

Agenda

• 09:00 start
• meeting notes: Patrick
• welcome round:
  • we welcome: Mo Adam, Johannes, Lea
  • also hi from Eszter
• Kennenlernen Game – The 60‑Second Story: Each person shares a short 60‑second story about something recent in their life. It can be:
  • something funny,
  • something surprising,
  • something they learned,
  • or something small but meaningful. The goal is to get a tiny glimpse into each person’s world.
• PermaplanTreffen basics:
  • BAST 11:03 from Deutschkreutz for 6 people
  • cars etc. see Nextcloud chat
  • Food: Lasagne(vegan)&Cherry-Cake(with eggs)
• news PermaplanTreffen:
  • Sticker
  • many new flowers and insects
  • many berries
  • 6 people already said yes! (invited in chat)
  • we do something with plants
• July release
  • dates see below
  • release critical issues+MRs
  • without migrations
  • 50% off
  • Mo&Mo
• scientific writing
  • usual meanings of words: significant
  • Approach/Implementation separate
  • Background and Related Work (after approach)
• scientific style
  • avoid can, may, ...
  • mood changer
  • use itemize/description
  • capitalize headings
  • style books
• PermaplanT Feedback Bogen in Nextcloud (updated)
• test case transition
• status round
  • blockers
  • buddy/success partner
  • any questions
• Development Board
• Tasks for everyone
  • Chris(toph) Kraus (not here)
  • Christoph Schreiner
  • Elia
  • Hannes
  • Ines
  • Johannes
  • Lea
  • Lukas
  • Markus
  • Mo (Adam): Meeting MR
  • Moritz
  • Mo(ritz) Adelsberger
  • Noah
  • Patrick
  • Vseslav
• Testing with different browsers on 16.07.2026:
  • Firefox&Edge (Moritz)
  • Chromium (Ines)
• talks
  • Noah: current state of workflows
  • Elia: presentation study
  • final talks?

Tasks for Everyone

Please do before Tuesday 14.07.2026:

• improve&review release critical MR https://pulls.permaplant.net/?sort=created_date&state=opened&label_name%5B%5D=priority%3A%3Arelease-critical&first_page_size=100
• check and update for your release-critical issues: https://issues.permaplant.net/?sort=created_date&state=opened&label_name%5B%5D=priority%3A%3Arelease-critical&first_page_size=100

Please do until Thursday 16.07.2026 23:59:

• All Weekly Regular Tasks

Before next meeting:

• Betreuung Feedback: please fill out https://cloud.perma.health/apps/forms/s/2xFD7CzMSiJQCDCkk7sZcjHZ
• buddy or success partner: talk about your background/related work

Outlook

• Please comment on meeting notes if you want something in Outlook for next meeting
• PM next steps
  • find date
  • workflows & guidelines
• Übergabe Scraper finished?
• workflows/tutorials:
  • improvements of coding guidelines
  • design decisions: should be complete, Noah is manager
• decision workflow (part II)
  • simplifications
  • when which state
  • MRs in general: don't add totally new stuff
• decisions:
  • code generation of plants.rs https://gitlab.tuwien.ac.at/perma/apps/planT/-/work_items/2647#note_383083
• documentation
  • database
  • ci
  • reorganize (tutorials etc.)
• reviews
  • how to do reviews normally
  • when to do review
  • responsibilities
  • glossary: MR owner
• AI
• Working with Git:
  • branches of branches
  • https://lalitm.com/post/git-history/
• Scientific writing: Methodology
• Teams

Did Not Approve Last Meeting Notes In Time

• Elia
• Lukas (excused)
• Kraus, Christoph
• Schreiner, Christoph

Statistics

Merge Request approved

Issue progress (status changes + closed)/ total assigned

Talks

• upcoming talks:
  • Noah
  • Elia
• current talks:
• done talks:
  • Lukas
  • Mo (1.6. reviews)
  • Elia 8.6. (guided tour workflow, presenting study and dev feedback)
  • Peter (11.05. decision workflow, Nextcloud folder structure proposal)
  • Elia (11.5. guided tour workflow, presenting study and dev feedback)
  • Moritz (4.5., thesis presentation)
  • Ines (27.04. static analysis, eslint)
  • Vseslav (20.04. PostgreSQL tools & tips; comparing databases)
  • Patrick (30.03, Security from DevOps)
  • Liza: 16.03, retrospective
  • Ben (02.03., FLOSS refactoring on library upgrades)
  • Liza (03.11.2025, PM)
  • Paul (10.11., Running Meetings That Don't Waste Time)
  • Justus (24.11., Debugging+Logging in the Backend)
  • Andrei (01.12., performance, RQ, Method)
  • Paul: (15.12 efficient issue refinement)
  • Moritz (29.12., pitfalls about pagination&endless scrolling)
  • Christoph Schreiner: 12.1. final thesis presentation, developer-central
  • Chris(toph) Kraus (02.02., workflow+developer perspective of e2e tests)

Notes

• Welcome Game: 60 second story
• PermaplanTreffen:
  • Arrival: 3 cars and a bus by Johannes
  • Food: vegan lasagne, fruits from the garden
  • eight people will come (including Eszter and Markus)
• release this week:
  • reason: mainly for bug fixes and updating landing page
  • issues are tagged as release-critical
  • finish MRs by Tuesday
  • testing (Wednesday - Thursday): Ines
  • release on Friday with infrastructure and onboarding
• scientific writing:
  • terminology: definition of meaning; words are often overloaded
  • example: "significant" usually refers to statistical significance in papers
  • everything not specified as term has common meaning known by computer scientists
  • background vs related work:
    • background: what you build upon, your work enhances, what existed before
    • vs. related Work: e.g., similar approach or method
    • related Work: comparing approach to similar approaches that one didn't build upon
      • e.g., different domain or data structure, hence not build upon but comparable
      • compares experiment, approach, or implementation
      • hence belongs after the implementation
      • can be very far-fetched
      • less strict requirements than background of what can be included
  • approach and implementation should be separated; implementation as short as possible
  • only the needed, specific parts are to be included
  • methodology: next week
• scientific style:
  • writing in the scientific "we" (community in computer science) vs "I" (used in math etc.)
  • clear writing style
  • avoid:
    • modal verbs: may, can (make unclear if you did it or not)
    • mood changers: however, but (e.g., instead of starting with "however...", may a new paragraph be fitting?)
  • LaTeX itemize/description presents a clear formatting
  • capitalization: depending on the length of the word, different to German
  • if not a sentence, don't capitalize
  • nginx and similar terms are not capitalized
• status round:
  • Ines:
    • meeting coordination: Nextcloud chat
    • doing fine but stressed due to the thesis
    • proof-reading can be done outside Perma too
    • follow-up issues were created but do not require adjustment of the thesis
    • regression: Bezier curves
    • release testing: Noah will provide input
  • Christoph: Johannes will take over heatmap
  • Elia: thesis, methodology; feedback on MRs needs implementation
  • Hannes: MR for decision is up; help with Nextcloud email not sending
  • Johannes: onboarding MR: add yourself to the landing page for the release
  • Lea: Keycloak login not working
  • Mo: compare rsync; requirement: switchover should be as late as possible for best user experience; testing
  • Moritz: finish testing (Firefox and Chrome); will follow up via email concerning PermaplanT participation post bachelor
  • Noah: testing - release-critical
  • Vseslav: do issue-review
  • for everyone: "babysitting MRs" (keep them up to date, reply, implement feedback, etc.)